Ariana Madix is spilling ALL the tea!
Ahead of the primary a part of Vanderpump Rules‘ season 10 reunion on Wednesday, the truth star sat down with Alex Cooper on Call Her Daddy for her first prolonged dialog about her bitter breakup with Tom Sandoval following his affair with Raquel Leviss.
During the practically two-hour dialog, nothing was off-limits! From debunking the “breakup conversation” the bar proprietor claims they needed to “the plan” she thinks he hoped would assist him keep away from the affair ever getting uncovered, Ariana acquired into all the pieces! Read on for the inside track!
Sex Life
In the podcast episode’s teaser earlier this week, Ariana revealed Sandoval and Leviss connected in her visitor bed room whereas she was within the different room. Gross AF! In the complete episode, she additionally opened up about her personal intercourse life with Tom, which he claimed was one of many largest causes for his or her cut up. Ariana shared:
“In the beginning … I was very excited that someone was, like, really into me because the relationship I was in previously, that sex life was fine, but at the same time I was being, like, criticized very heavily about my body, my personality — just everything. And so I was like, ‘Oh, my gosh, this is somebody who’s really into me,’ and so that was very exciting.”
Over the subsequent 9 years, their “sex life waxed and waned,” she recalled:
“I definitely think that, you know, it got to a point sometimes where I just wanted that quality time so bad. … I felt like he just was adding more and more things to his plate and I don’t know, I just felt like, ‘Oh, he’s just not into me.’”
That mentioned, her ex “would complain about frequency” when it got here to being intimate, which regularly made her query all the pieces, she mentioned:
“It felt like he wanted to have sex, but I was like, ‘But do you want to have sex with me? Is it about me or is it just about the act?”
OOF!
She additionally insisted they didn’t have an open relationship and thinks that the rumor “came from him.”
Valentine’s Day
We already know the TomTom co-owner tried to finish the pair’s relationship on Valentine’s Day of all days, however Ariana had a really totally different POV on the night. She claims it began out very romantic!
“He got me flowers, we went to Schwartz & Sandy’s for dinner and we brought a super special bottle of wine that was special to us. I got dressed up. … We went out for drinks later. Rachel [AKA Raquel] showed up, as did a few of our other friends.”
Of course Raquel would present up on Valentine’s! SMH. Once house, the couple had an “hours-long” dialog wherein the 39-year-old revealed he was having a mid-life disaster. This is when Ariana expressed how unhappy she’d be in the event that they cut up — however she did NOT threaten to hurt herself, not like what her ex has claimed. She defined:
“And I said, ‘If we break up, I’m probably going to quit the show. I will probably leave Los Angeles, I’ll probably deactivate my Instagram.’ And he found that to be, like, very offensive. … I was never saying that I was going to kill myself. I was saying that my life — this life — will be over for me because I will go do something else. … He knows that that’s not what I was saying.”
Also, as a result of they had been already having points and Tom clearly had a “plan” to get out of the connection, the Fancy AF Cocktails co-author doesn’t assume they’d nonetheless be collectively right this moment even when the dishonest scandal didn’t make headlines. She famous:
“Still together? I would say no, given what I know about this plan. The plan was to break up with me without any sort of mention of an affair or cheating, whether that was pre-reunion or not or pre-going to film Winter House or not. And then they would just start dating.”
That mentioned, she’s “so glad” she discovered this manner since in any other case she would have “been this cog in the machine of this whole narrative” that she believes Tom was creating.
Couples’ Therapy
The loopy factor is that although the Tom Sandoval & The Most Extras performer reportedly had a plan to finish the connection, he was nonetheless working laborious to carry onto Ariana. Months into his affair with the 28-year-old, Ariana mentioned Tom instructed they go to {couples}’ remedy — and it virtually led to their breakup (which she thinks he needed however couldn’t comply with by with):
“There was a session that got really intense, and it felt like maybe we were ending. And at the end of the session [the therapist] was like, ‘OK, so, is this a breakup?’ And he was like, ‘No.’”
HE SAID NO!? WTF!
She then commented on the heated confrontation they shared on cameras within the finale proper after she discovered of the affair, slamming Tom’s “sad sack act,” saying:
“I knew he was trying to be that person so that I would be the angry person; I could see what was happening in front of my face, and it was really frustrating. Honestly, when he started yelling at me, I felt a little bit satisfied that he was finally going to be the real him.”
Jeez…
The Real Tom
When requested if she thinks Tom is a pathological liar, Ariana acquired candid:
“It’s now hard for me to look back at nine years and if I tell myself he’s a pathological liar, then it means that the last nine years of my life were potentially a lie. But he did say stuff on that finale episode to Scheana [Shay], like, ‘We weren’t happy’ and ‘We bought the house as a Band-Aid,’ and I’m like, ‘A Band-Aid to who?’ Because that wasn’t where I was at at all.”
She continued:
“There are a lot of things from his perspective that were said in that episode and otherwise that it’s like, ‘Oh, OK. Well, that’s maybe how you were thinking, but that’s nowhere near where I was.’”
Red Flags Galore!
The 37-year-old went on to confess she turned a blind eye to a number of purple flags all through the top of the romance, comparable to how “everything was coming before me and before the relationship.” According to her, the singer would select to exit ingesting or spend time with buddies as an alternative of being at house together with her.
“I trusted in him so much… that I trusted his perspective on things, and I think I was caught up. […] I’m a smart girl and I could have dug deeper, but I didn’t.”
This was true when she was grieving the lack of her canine, Charlotte. She mentioned she “didn’t have an idea that he would betray me during that time” as a result of she assumed he was “also grieving,” however now she thinks there’s a robust likelihood he was “potentially” getting intimate together with his facet piece whereas she was away at the moment! Ugh.
So Many Affairs!
Sadly, this dishonest scandal wasn’t a one-time factor. Ariana mentioned she’s discovered of different affairs in current weeks, together with a rumor that haunted her for years. She dished:
“There was one time, years and years ago, when I got a direct message that was like, ‘Tom hooked up with my friend in San Diego.’ And I brought it up over and over again… and he was like, ‘No, absolutely not.’ Now I’m thinking it was actually a yes.”
Other solid members have additionally been attempting to determine who else Tom cheated with. During the VPR finale ep final week, he revealed there was at the very least one different individual of their interior circle he f**ked, however he didn’t reveal a reputation. As for a way he’s gotten away with dishonest for thus lengthy, Ariana claimed he would use different peoples’ bank cards to fly Raquel out to him whereas touring, together with “bringing Rachel home to St. Louis” and “putting her up in a hotel.” There’s been a TON of hypothesis about Tom dishonest with VPR alum Billie Lee — however Ariana’s not on board with this principle:
“The reason I don’t is because — I understand that this sounds crazy because Raquel was someone I loved and trusted — but I trust that Billie Lee would not do that.”
She confirmed the chums “talked about” the rumors offline, too. Now, she thinks she’s “99.9 percent sure” she is aware of “exactly” who Tom talked about dishonest with within the finale, however she’s additionally defending their identification. Because of this sample of infidelity, she declared:
“I didn’t lose him. He lost me.”
In Mourning…
Considering the connection was so pivotal in her life, Ariana and her buddies held a funeral after the affair was introduced. She mirrored:
“Our friends had all brought over wine and we were just watching Drag Race. It was essentially a funeral, right? Because these were people who were friends with him and friends with her and they were like, ‘We’ve lost these friends because we cannot in good conscience.’”
She claimed the duvet band star returned from filming with Raquel and yelled on the group for being there — insisting it was his house too — and referred to as the gathering a “party.” He then left and went again to his new girlfriend’s house. As for a way she’s doing post-breakup, she mentioned the scandal makes it laborious for her to look again on the romance “with any level of nostalgia,” however that she does miss their “inside jokes” and attending to be “a goofball” together with her ex. She additionally thinks he misses her:
“As someone he would go to for advice on mostly everything up until that moment, I just think there’s no way he doesn’t [miss me], because he’s been making a lot of questionable decisions over the last two months.”
Who’s Raquel Anyway?
While Ariana and Raquel was buddies, they’re very estranged now! Madix described the Cali native as “lost” whereas noting she doesn’t actually know who Raquel is:
“I realize now I never knew her, but I certainly don’t know her now and I don’t know anyone who does know her. It’s hard to say, but based on what I’ve seen, [she’s] lost and empty. … I don’t really know what’s going on.”
She additionally doesn’t assume she and Sandoval make sense collectively:
“I mean, unless he has changed everything that he’s ever said he’s looking for in someone.”
When requested if she’s heard from Raquel since this mess started, Ariana revealed she acquired a textual content, nevertheless it was not passable:
“[It] was very, like, ‘I just don’t know what to say except that I’m sorry.’ And then at the reunion, it was very subpar.”
The Reunion!
Thankfully, Ariana had loads of help from her buddies and OG co-stars throughout the reunion taping, which gave her a “vote of confidence.” It was nonetheless a really “painful” filming expertise, she shared:
“I was angry. At times, I was sad. But I honestly think that the biggest thing that I felt … I was so grateful for my friends. Both the friends that were there that day and otherwise, and I honestly [think] a lot of it felt numb in a way.”
She then joked:
“I was like, ‘I’m not looking at either of them. I will communicate with Andy [Cohen] or Lisa [Vanderpump] … otherwise I will speak to the sound stage.’”
Oooh, we are able to’t wait to look at it!
More Bombshells?
Bravo has been teasing an unknown reveal within the upcoming three-part reunion, however Ariana isn’t positive what it’s. She debunked the rumor Raquel is pregnant (which ET sources additionally denied as effectively), telling Alex she doesn’t there’s a probability of that being the case however didn’t elaborate on why. She additionally thinks there’s a chance the affair began “between the James [Kennedy] and Raquel era,” however she doesn’t assume it’d be loopy if true. Similarly, she doesn’t assume Lisa “knew [about the affair] the whole time” and thinks “there’s no way” the SUR waitress connected with Scheana’s husband, Brock Davis. As for her choice to return to the present subsequent season, she mentioned “anything that makes me feel unsafe” could be a deal-breaker.
Whoa!
She actually laid all of it out! What’s probably the most surprising bombshell in your opinion? Share it (under)!
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