Please Don’t Make Harley Quinn the Love Interest

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Please Don’t Make Harley Quinn the Love Interest


New posters for Joker: Folie à Deux starring Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck/Joker and Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn have surfaced and it’s inflicting some hypothesis on what Harley’s function shall be within the sequel to the 2019 hit Joker. Will Harley Quinn be the love curiosity of Joker and journey down the identical path that the comics, reveals, and films have adopted earlier than? Or is it time to vary their dynamic as every character has advanced over time in popular culture? Let this be a contemporary begin for Joker and Harley Quinn and hold them away from one another as love pursuits!


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What Happens Between Arthur and Sophie in ‘Joker’?

Joker follows Arthur Fleck, a failed comic who always appears like he is placing on a masks for society. Arthur slowly begins to descend into insanity and begins his transformation into the villain we all know as Joker. In the film, Arthur seems to be relationship Sophie, a girl who lives in the identical condominium constructing as him. Towards the top of the movie, audiences begin to perceive that Arthur’s relationship with Sophie (Zazie Beetz) is a fantasy created by Arthur quite than a actuality. When Arthur bursts into Sophie’s condominium after a tough day, it turns into clear that Sophie has no concept of their relationship, and though viewers do not completely get to know what occurs, it’s implied that Arthur kills Sophie. Since the film subverted the unique Joker origin story a tad, the filmmakers have a possibility to construct a distinct sort of relationship between the 2 chaotically insane characters.

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Lady Gaga as Harley Quinn and Joaquin Phoenix as Joker in Folie a Deux
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Harley Quinn and Joker’s Toxic Relationship

Folie à Deux hasn’t confirmed Harley Quinn’s relationship to Joker, however the shut quarters of the characters in essentially the most lately launched posters present some form of intimacy forming. Historically, Harley Quinn is a former psychiatrist who falls in love with the criminally insane Clown Prince of Gotham. Joker manipulates Quinn and she or he falls for his devilish attraction, not understanding that it might be her eventual downfall and she or he would change into a companion in clown-themed crime with Joker. Fans of Gotham have learn the comics, seen the reveals, and watched the flicks that depict a manipulative and abusive relationship between the 2 clowns in a way that makes followers extremely sympathetic to Harley and what she has to endure. However, the truth that Arthur’s love story with Sophie was fully made up within the first movie units up the potential for his relationship with Harley Quinn being fictionalized in his thoughts additionally.

‘Joker 2’ Has the Opportunity to Change Joker and Harley’s Story

If the connection is actual, nevertheless, there’s additionally the open chance of it being extra healthful. Instead of manipulation and abuse, we may see a supportive and loving relationship if the 2 are on the identical stage of needing some psychological assist. This does not essentially even imply the 2 characters need to be romantically concerned, however as an alternative might be the buddy that the opposite did not know they wanted. There are rumors that each Harley Quinn and Joker shall be in Arkham collectively, quite than the doctor-and-patient dynamic we’re used to. Taking the facility dynamics out of the image for the 2 of them may even the enjoying discipline and make it simpler for Joker and Quinn to have a seemingly extra regular sort of connection quite than one being depending on the opposite for his or her wants. Originally, the Joker wanted Quinn (previously often known as Harleen Quinzel when she was nonetheless a health care provider) to get out of the establishment and wreak havoc on Gotham, so he manipulated her any manner he knew how. The two could be on the identical stage if they’re each sufferers contained in the establishment, so they might relate to one another of their present locations in life. There is a chance for a safe attachment between the 2 with love on the base, however the conditions must be fully modified from their authentic dynamic.

Harley Quinn looking hopeful at something off camera in Birds of Prey.
Image through Warner Bros.

Harley Quinn Is Her Own Character Outside of Joker

In Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey and the animated Harley Quinn TV collection, we see a subversion of the everyday back-and-forth, tumultuous relationship between the 2 clowns. Birds of Prey is when Harley (Margot Robbie) in the end takes her energy again and strikes on along with her life after Mista J leaves her so she has to defend and rise up for herself on her personal, with the assistance of a topsy-turvy gang of girls. Joker is not even seen within the movie as soon as. This is among the first occasions we see Quinn as her personal entity and that she has the flexibility to exist on this planet with out the management that Joker has had over her. The animated TV collection takes it a step even additional, focusing the latest season on Harley (Kaley Cuoco) and Poison Ivy’s (Lake Bell) relationship.

There has been hypothesis for fairly a while that finest mates Quinn and Ivy had extra than simply friendship, however the finish of Season 2 reveals the 2 driving off into the sundown collectively after Ivy leaves Kite-Man on the altar. Season 3 chronicles the 2 of them tackling Gotham and misadventures collectively as a pair and the way the 2 assist one another develop. Their relationship continues to evolve they usually each assist one another escape of poisonous tendencies and unhealthy relationship habits instilled in them by previous relationships, particularly Harley Quinn’s previous relationship with the Joker. The narrative round Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy being overtly queer and in no way centered on the Harley and Joker relationship provides Folie à Deux a possibility to run with a contemporary and new storyline, very similar to how they did with Joker in 2019.

With the expansion of each characters in numerous methods, it might solely profit the evolving storyline to divert from making the 2 felony clowns lovers. Society as a complete has been trying to reveal and transfer ahead from selling a poisonous love story, and this movie could be a fantastic alternative to place that into observe on the large display screen. The two aren’t endgame, however this new film leaves open the potential for a more healthy and loving relationship than what we sometimes know for Mista J and Harley Quinn from the comics or different motion pictures starring the duplicitous duo.

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