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Joe Goldberg is beginning yet one more new chapter by the finish of You season 4. After loads of homicide, kidnapping, and psychotic breaks, Joe and Kate have fled London and began anew in New York City. Joe has been extra forthcoming with Kate about his murderous methods than his previous loves, and he or she has accepted him as he’s. So, is Kate completely different? Or might she find yourself like Beck and Love? HollywoodLife spoke EXCLUSIVELY with You showrunner Sera Gamble about Joe and Kate’s future.
“I think when we leave them at the end of the season, they’re pretty happy with each other,” Sera stated. “We don’t know exactly how much he disclosed, but whatever he told her, she has not lived a life where she’s going to be scared away by the word murder. Her dad was her dad, so her setpoint for behavior is a little different than most of us. But I think the answer is in the question, it’s like, I’m not sure that there is a ‘one.’ The ‘one’ has to be Joe not looking outside of himself for all of the stuff that really is about him, his own way that he moves to the world, his own honesty. So for as long as he continues to think he’s going to have the perfect life because of some woman, I think there will be a problem.”
In the ultimate moments of season 4, Joe seems on the window and sees Rhys’ reflection within the mirror. Joe turned obsessive about the true Rhys Montrose after capturing Marienne. Following a psychotic break, Rhys turned a figment of Joe’s creativeness, the supply of all of the darkness in Joe.
“I don’t know for sure,” Sera stated about whether or not or not Rhys shall be again in a possible season 5. “I will say that we adore him. I think that the question we leave with is: what does a truly integrated Joe look like?”
Sera famous that Joe has been constantly “lying to himself” in earlier seasons about his intentions. “The only reason he hasn’t learned from the 15 or so people he has killed is that he keeps telling himself that was a one-off, and he’s not a murderer. We were very curious to know what it’s like if he isn’t impinged by that if he doesn’t have the same feeling of guilt that he used to.”
The showrunner identified that the present pulled a Fight Club in season 4, and the Rhys/Joe storyline had been within the works for a while. “It’s kind of the reward and success for getting to a season 4,” Sera instructed HollywoodLife. “When you establish that your character’s mental health is not improving over the course of this season. He isn’t facing a lot of consequences necessarily in the outside world. He’s getting away with a lot, but you can’t run away from what you’ve done on the inside. He has really eroded his own mind over the course of everything he’s done that we’ve seen. We knew we wanted to construct somebody who essentially could embody all of those misguided survival instincts, but also had none of the ‘good Joe’ hesitation. It was more of a question of: what does that person look like? Should we write a male or female character? Will they be British? All of those kinds of questions.”
In the previous, Joe’s obsessions have been rooted in romance. Joe’s obsession with Rhys showcased a brand new aspect to the character. Sera opened up about exploring other forms of “deep love” in season 4.
“When we first pitched the show, we said each season we will deep dive into love and obsession in some way,” Sera stated. “But we always said there will always be romance. Joe is such a romantic guy and lives for romantic love. But there are a lot of kinds of very deep love, and there are a lot of ways to fall in love with somebody. This was sort of our erotomania season if you will. It just struck us that maybe he would become stalker-level obsessed with a public figure if he had a strong enough parasocial relationship with them.”
One of the largest twists of season 4 was that Marienne by no means escaped Joe after he discovered her. He saved her locked in a cage in London. With Nadia’s assist, Marienne was in a position to free herself from Joe’s grasp by faking her loss of life. HollywoodLife requested Sera if we’ll see Marienne once more sooner or later.
“Marianne is not in a position to be motivated by vengeance,” the showrunner careworn. “She knows that if he’s aware that she’s alive, then she and her daughter are in jeopardy and no one has fought harder to just have a basic ordinary life with a kid than she has. But that being said, we don’t even really have this specific story worked out yet, but we have always had this idea that anyone who remains alive who knows the deal with Joe, especially people whose lives he’s completely destroyed, of which there are several, any one of them could come back.”
Speaking of returns, Love and Beck returned in certainly one of Joe’s nightmares as his suppressed reminiscences got here to the floor in his thoughts. “We felt strongly that we did want to bring back some of the aspects of the previous seasons of the show. I think it’s kind of fun to see him show up clean-shaven at the end because it’s like Joe 1.0-ish has returned to home to New York. Seeing Beck and Love again, for us, felt like a way to make all of these seasons a little bit more of a circle,” Sera defined. You season 4 is now out there on Netflix.