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Quantumania,’ Figuring Out Kang & The Challenge Of ‘Avengers 5’ [The Playlist Podcast]

March 4, 2023

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Prior to “Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania,” author Jeff Loveness labored within the realm of TV for some time and had by no means written the script for a function movie. Then, he was picked by Marvel Studios to not solely write the third ‘Ant-Man’ movie however to additionally write the following ‘Avengers’ movie. Needless to say, Loveness has lots on his plate. Thankfully, he took the outing to speak to The Playlist Podcast about his new movie and the stress of writing the follow-up to one of many greatest movies of all time.

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“Ant-man and the Wasp: Quantumania” is the third movie within the ‘Ant-Man’ franchise and is maybe greatest recognized proper now because the movie that basically introduces Jonathan Majors as the following huge Marvel unhealthy man, Kang the Conquerer. In addition to ‘Quantumania,’ Loveness can be already exhausting at work on his subsequent Marvel undertaking, the script for “Avengers: The Kang Dynasty,” which is predicted to reach in 2025. Not so unhealthy for a man who wrote for “Jimmy Kimmel Live” and “Rick & Morty.”

In our interview, we cowl fairly a bit about ‘Quantumania.’ I’ll warn you, there are spoilers which are mentioned, however anybody who’s fearful about spoilers has had a few weeks to take a look at the movie, in order that’s on you. We spend a number of time speaking in regards to the villains of the movie, particularly, Kang the Conquerer, and the way Loveness got here to determine one of the best ways to introduce a personality who’s greatest recognized for having one million variants and dwelling throughout numerous timelines and multiverses.

“We really just wanted to focus on the character,” defined Loveness. “Who is this actual guy? Before we get to big multiverse things, Avengers murders, cameos, and time-travel stuff. The idea of him being this exile or prisoner… Doing that for a guy named Kang the Conquerer seemed kinda interesting. And to make it feel like he had all of this backstory that we haven’t heard. And to make it feel like he’s in the middle of something we don’t know yet.”

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He added that the casting of Majors made an enormous distinction in how he approached the character, “Some of my very first whacks at the character—and I think this was before Jonathan was cast—was a bit more worldly, a bit more casual, a bit more modernized. And there was decent stuff in there… It felt like you had to rise to the occasion when Jonathan Majors is cast. And that made me excited and bolder. And I think it’s going to service the character better.”

Kang isn’t the one highly-anticipated villain ‘Quantumania’ launched. Loveness additionally had the chance to convey MODOK to life, which has been one of many extra polarizing points of the movie. When considering of inspiration for MODOK (a personality with an enormous head and tiny limbs, who floats round and murders individuals along with his brow beam), Loveness checked out a basic comedy.

“For MODOK, I went with Kevin Kline, from ‘A Fish Called Wanda,’” he mentioned. “He’s such an idiot, and he’s so insecure. And yet, he’s really good at killing people. [Laughs] So, you gotta be on edge around that guy. There’s this ‘Simpsons’ episode with Frank Grimes [also].”

Loveness additionally talked a bit about some additional stuff from ‘Quantumania’ that ended up not making the completed movie, which he thinks might have been enjoyable.

“There was one scene in the probability storm, I was going to have it more psychedelic and more in the mind. There was this giant Werner Herzog-voiced ant that was almost animatronic…and he was going to be there for the adventure,” mentioned Loveness. “Hank was going to live in a hive-mind of ants, at one point. That was fun… I played a henchman that was killed by MODOK. That was a cruel cut. [Laughs]”

Of course, this interview occurred after the entire critiques and field workplace information surrounding ‘Quantumania’ was seen. The movie at present stands at 48% on Rotten Tomatoes (one of many lowest in Marvel historical past). It additionally skilled the worst second-weekend field workplace drop in Marvel’s lengthy historical past. That mentioned, Loveness isn’t defeated.

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“I’m taking it in stride. It’s fun to have a divisive movie,” he mentioned. “But I like the movie, and it’s been so lovely to see people who get it, get it and really be down for the ride and laugh at the jokes and digging what Jonathan has been building with the character. So yeah, I’m having a good time with it.”

As for what’s subsequent, the author can’t share particulars about “Avengers: The Kang Dynasty,” however he did discuss in regards to the stress of writing the primary ‘Avengers’ movie since ‘Endgame’ broke data and gave the impression to be the high-water mark for superhero team-up movies.

“It’s the biggest challenge in the world. It’s comedic how big this challenge is,” he defined. “Literally, there’s no bigger pressure, no bigger movie, no bigger canvas, no bigger fanbase, no bigger expectations. The enormity of that isn’t lost on me. But I also feel like this is insane and wonderful, and I get the chance to take the biggest swing at the biggest movie in the world.”

“Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania” is in theaters now. You can hear our full dialogue under:

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