Courtney Love was the most recent visitor on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast. She mentioned her forthcoming album, drill music, her dad dosing her with LSD when she was 4, 12-step restoration, Lana Del Rey, Kanye West, Nirvana, and extra. After an hour, Maron concluded that his visitor was a “walking mythology.”
Love labored on her new album, her first since Hole’s Nobody’s Daughter in 2010, with Lana Del Rey collaborator Justin Parker and Anthony Rossomando (the previous Dirty Pretty Things member who co-wrote Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper’s “Shallow”). The former Hole frontwoman stated it’s not rock (“because people aren’t really doing rock anymore … rock’s not a thing”), however she and her co-writers did produce two “fucked-up guitar songs” within the classes. “Kill Fuck Marry,” slated because the opening observe, was apparently impressed by the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard trial. Another one (that Love calls “an earworm and a half”) will likely be left off the LP as a result of “it would swallow the entire narrative.” That one’s titled “Justice For Kurt” and addresses conspiracists that declare she was liable for her husband’s demise.
She additionally introduced up her ex, present Glass Onion star Edward Norton, saying their greatest battle associated to a proposed Nirvana film and “the first time Kurt [got] used as a chit.” In the late ’90s, after she had starred in The People Vs. Larry Flynt, Love stated she was formally solid within the position of Marla in Fight Club reverse Norton. Around that point she bought a name from Gus Van Sant and Brad Pitt, who needed to do a music film about Kurt Cobain. (She clarified that this was not Last Days, Van Sant’s eventual 2005 drama loosely primarily based on the Nirvana frontman.) Love stated she “went nuclear” on them, a call she now regrets, and because of this director David Fincher fired her from Fight Club as a result of “I wouldn’t let Brad play Kurt.” She added that as lately as 2020 she reconnected with Pitt as a result of his Plan B Entertainment needed to provide a Cobain biopic, an concept she additionally rejected. “I don’t know if I trust you and I don’t know that your movies are for profit,” she advised him. “If you don’t get me, you kinda don’t Kurt, and I don’t feel like you do, Brad.” She stated there will likely be a Cobain biopic sooner or later, however she desires it produced by Warner Bros “because they know how to make a fucking movie.” She added, “My friend Cameron Crowe [told me] Brad Pitt was put on this earth to stalk you for Kurt, which has been going on since ’96.”
The interview happened at a resort in London, the place Love now lives having escaped the “overculture” of LA. There, she has change into a fan of drill. “The drill here, which is like a genre of hip-hop that I actually really like — it’s melodic, it’s almost like Joy Division do gangsta rap. There’s all this like, minor sevenths and depressing things in drill. It started in Chicago, but I like the UK drill.”
“Overculture,” she stated, is a time period she discovered from Lana Del Rey, who bought it from creator Clarissa Estés. “Now, when you get famous… some kid like Doja Cat, or whatever, it’s a 360 degree. Like, they see every—, up your panties, everything bad you ever said, that whole Chinese ‘one person one file,’ yeah the kids’ll know.”
Elsewhere, Love had excessive reward for her one-time tourmate Lana Del Rey, who has change into “an actual true, great friend.” “Lana and Kurt are the only two true musical geniuses I’ve ever known,” Love stated. “And by that I mean they can Spielberg anything.” She in contrast LDR reciting Allen Ginsberg’s Howl to Nirvana masking the Meat Puppets on MTV Unplugged In New York: they “Spielberged” it.
“She’s a genius, too. She’s got the integrity that Kurt had. The only two people I know that I can say… By the way, Stipe? Bono? Yes, these are people that I know and love. Billie Joe, sure. But Lana? She’s got a magic thing. And she’s not even fucked up!”
Love additionally claimed she launched Lana Del Rey to the music of Joni Mitchell. “She described a record she wanted to make to me, and I’m like, ‘Oh you mean Hissing Of Summer Lawns,’ which, I don’t even like that record. She’s like, ‘what’s that?’ I’m like, ‘It’s a Joni Mitchell record.’ She’s like, ‘Who’s that?’” “Wow,” Maron interjects. Love: “I know.” Love stated that she bought her pal “all the Joni” vinyl at a Portland document retailer after which Lana “changed her fucking whole thing.” “My boomer rock critic friends are calling after Norman Rockwell, ‘Hey your friend, she’s pretty good…’ And I said to her, ‘Welcome to the Thunderdome, Ms. Del Rey.’ Even Springsteen! He goes, ‘She’s our greatest songwriter.’” Love advised her, “don’t go insane” and Lana hasn’t as a result of “she got out of the overculture. She deleted all her social. Fuck that shit.”