Fumbani Innot Phiri Jr.: Welcome to Critical Stages in Malawian Contemporary Theatre podcast, produced for HowlRound Theatre Commons, a free and open platform for theatre makers worldwide, in partnership with Advancing Arts Forward, a motion superior fairness, inclusion, and justice by way of the humanities by making a liberated area that uplift you and encourages to alter the world. I’m your host, Fumbani Innot Phiri Jr., a producer, actor, director, playwright, and naturally, a contract journalist.
Critical Stages in Malawian Contemporary Theatre, I interview established theatre artists from all backgrounds to discover the precarious journey of theatre in a contemporary world, defines the issue, and discover a higher resolution to maintain us within the technology of movement footage. In this podcast, I lead the dialogue with established performers, administrators, writers, who’re exploring methods to greet these challenges whereas their works impressed the group.
In immediately’s version, I’m with Thomas Chibambo, a competition supervisor of Blantyre Arts Festival. Thomas Chibambo is a full-time cultural and humanities creator, a movie producer, occasion supervisor, competition director of Blantyre Arts Festival. Since 2002, Thomas has been concerned in variety of artistic performances and occasion administration in Malawi. He’s a author, director, and producer of Malawi first ever TV drama collection and founding father of Blantyre Festival that has been operating since 2009 within the seat of Blantyre, Malawi.
Blantyre Arts Festival is nongovernmental group, which was established in 2009, integrated as trustees as an NGO, however responds to the wants of growth, promotion of varied side of arts and tradition by organizing occasions, festivals, and tradition change packages for each native and worldwide performers. It promotes the native company society by offering company planning promotion. Blantyre Arts Festival run tradition tailor-made initiatives that current the most effective Malawian creativity to the widest potential viewers and likewise present social creativity, growth trainings, capability buildings, and cultural initiative packages to uplift tourism, creativity, and improve of cultural actions.
All proper, Thomas Chibambo from Blantyre Arts Festival. Thank you for this version and folks wish to know, who’s Thomas Chibambo?
Thomas Chibambo: Well, yeah. I’m Thomas Chibambo. I’m the founder and government director of Blantyre Arts Festival in Malawi, which is began approach again in 2009. And the group has been up and operating since then.
Fumbani: Blantyre Arts Festival is without doubt one of the outstanding competition in Malawi, and it has been there selling theatre throughout Malawi and worldwide. So, you as Tom Chibambo, what was the key behind to determine Blantyre Arts Festival?
Thomas: Well, when the Blantyre Arts Festival began in 2009, there wasn’t extra festivals in Malawi; and through that point, a lot of the artists in numerous genres had no alternative to have visibility in performing arts. And there was some two, three festivals which had been dominated with the music solely. And I discover out that a lot of the arts disciplines had no alternative to have visibility within the arts.
So, when the Blantyre Arts Festival got here in, I believed that I ought to embody completely different disciplines within the arts, the place theatre was one of many disciplines that I integrated. So, thereby together with visible arts, movie, pictures, poetry, music, modern dance, and all these sort of issues develop into a part of a bundle of Blantyre Arts Festival to be sure that artists in Malawi have a chance to have visibility within the competition, moderately than simply to solely music as a dominant of the festivals in Malawi.
Fumbani: So, it has been in genesis 2009 updated and principally, other than Blantyre Arts Festival, we all know Tom Chibambo as a filmmaker. In late 2000, you stormed the society with first Malawi TV collection, which loved airplay in Malawi TV station, which was solely TV station by then. And what was normal prefer to abandon a filmmaking job and begin a competition?
Thomas: Not actually abandoning as a result of I imply, for those who have a look at a movie trade, it’s one of many costly journey within the trade of the humanities. And once I produced my first collection in 2003, 2004, it wasn’t a straightforward journey, making an allowance for that in Malawi, a lot of the productions within the movie class weren’t on prime of the thoughts of the folks as a result of I imply, it was very, very costly to supply. I used to be simply fortunate sufficient that I had the sponsored bundle that I used to be in a position to produce these. I nonetheless take into consideration that I’ve to proceed.
But then, I imply, whenever you have a look at the humanities as arts practitioner, you must also recommend to do issues that incorporate many disciplines within the arts. Now, movie trade was simply contemplating theatre and producers, actors and actresses, however poetry, music, visible arts, photographer had been out of the scene.
Now, that is coming in a way that I wished to include many, not simply solely line of movie manufacturing. So, by coming in with the Blantyre Arts Festival, my thought is to be sure that the points of the humanities which had been not noted of my path of doing movie manufacturing, ought to we incorporate extra arts into my journey of—
Fumbani: More like multidiscipline.
Thomas: —Into my journey of being an arts practitioner in Malawi.
Fumbani: All proper. So, you thought it smart, “Okay, let me incorporate a lot of art discipline in one sector.” So, you determined to give you a competition, and the competition is named Blantyre Arts Festival. Someone was asking why did he select Blantyre as a substitute of creating it as a nationwide competition? Yes, we perceive it’s worldwide competition, however why did he select the title of a metropolis, Blantyre.
Thomas: Blantyre is without doubt one of the … a business metropolis in Malawi, and a competition ought to positively have a reputation of town embracing the entire society in Malawi. And we additionally have to be sure that one of many cities in Malawi must also have an choices to have a advertising and marketing software like Blantyre for Malawi. And it’s a advertising and marketing technique that we wish to make Malawi as one of many touristic sector with its personal manufacturers of town of Blantyre.
But as you talked about already, Blantyre Arts Festival isn’t just about for Blantyre, it embody artists from all around the nation, but in addition all around the world. As we began our competition, varied artists from completely different nations have been a part of the competition. They have been coming to carry out in Malawi in a distinct disciplines, mentioning about theatre. We began the theatre by together with artists from completely different universities, like from University of Malawi and different native theatre productions have been a part of it. And then different theatre manufacturing from Zimbabwe, from Zambia, they’ve been a part of the competition and different theatre manufacturing from Germany. They’ve been additionally a part of the Blantyre Arts Festival. It’s widening scenario that we created for Blantyre Arts Festival to be sure that most of their …
Thomas: Then we created for Blantyre’s Festival to be sure that a lot of the artists profit from the group of Blantyre’s Festival itself.
Blantyre’s Festival is without doubt one of the large festivals in Blantyre in addition to in Malawi. We have to have earnings to have very conducive atmosphere and the area the place we are able to have all of the points of performances at one venue.
Fumbani: How did you handle to include all of those concepts to give you Blantyre’s Festival? As I’m saying, I’m one of many product from Blantyre’s Festival. I received a chance to carry out at Blantyre’s Festival once I was younger. Then I received a chance to go to Germany to additional my performing excuse[AM1] . So what was the key behind incorporate rock artists and in addition to to deliver tradition change throughout the circle of performing arts?
Thomas: You have to know that if you end up nicely organized issues will all the time go nicely. You have to be sure that your group is nicely registered, your group is nicely related with completely different sectors of the humanities and it’s a must to work very, very exhausting to just be sure you discover companions which you can work collectively. It is throughout that neighborhood of getting quite a lot of companions but in addition to be nicely related but in addition to be well-organized group that’s in tandem with the legal guidelines of the nation in order that if you end up pursuing completely different sort of standards of growth within the arts, you shouldn’t have completely different obstacles alongside the best way. So the key behind is to be sure that the group is nicely organized: it has its board of trustees, it’s registered with the native legal guidelines—in Malawi, in our case. And you must also just be sure you are related and also you must also just be sure you have sponsors and the companions that may take you alongside the best way. And this is the reason Blantyre’s Festival has been in existence since 2009 updated and it’s nonetheless robust and it’s nonetheless going.
Fumbani: And it’s nonetheless robust, it’s nonetheless going. At the identical time you wrestle to entry followers for the artist, however your individual artists will provide themselves to come back over and carry out without spending a dime only for visibility and arrange their new platforms. Has it been a problem so that you can entry followers?
Thomas: Exactly. It’s identical to some other arts group in Malawi, additionally globally, it’s dealing with quite a few challenges in accessing funds ‘trigger not so many native and worldwide organizations assist arts as a result of largely arts has been thought-about as a leisure sort of actions. Bearing in thoughts that a lot of the group, they really assist infrastructure of the federal government, issues like that. There is quite a lot of challenges that the world is struggling for the time being. For occasion, there was COVID-19. I do know there may be poverty. People would in any other case recommend to assist these sort of issues, leaving arts behind, contemplating it as its leisure group. So due to that scenario you discover arts group, I discover it just about very exhausting to entry funding. But like I informed you, because of the companions that we now have established over the course of time, we’re nonetheless working hand in hand with our companions to pursue the continuity of arts and create the trade and make it to develop in Malawi.
Fumbani: So because the institution of Blantyre’s Festival, we now have seen music, let’s say musicians, and the theatre artists having fun with the fruit of Blantyre’s Festival. Tons of artists are touring to Germany to entry cultural change packages. In 2013 additionally see a secondary college going to Germany to carry out at Aware and Fare Cultural Festival of which it was a delivery mark from Blantyre Arts Festival.
To you, what’s your tackle selling theatre for youngsters and younger folks?
Thomas: For occasion, that’s our path and we studied already incorporating theatre for younger folks since we began our competition already. And one of many product is your self with the younger festivals. You’ve been a part of the competition since this began updated. And that’s our instructions and we nonetheless have to be sure that we incorporate younger folks in theatre productions. And of late, this 12 months we couldn’t incorporate a lot of theatre productions in our competition settings because of the lack of efficiency area.
Blantyre’s Festival is without doubt one of the large festivals in Blantyre in addition to in Malawi. We have to have earnings to have very conducive atmosphere and the area the place we are able to have all of the points of performances at one venue. But you possibly can agree with me that we don’t have it in Malawi; we don’t have it in Blantyre. And due to that we’re wanting ahead to have an excellent conducive place and an area the place we are able to incorporate all these artwork disciplines to be a part of the competition once more. So we now have to see subsequent 12 months how finest we are able to incorporate all these sectors of arts in order that our journey ought to have an excellent meals for imaginations.
Fumbani: As you stated, this lack of conducive atmosphere, principally for this 12 months’s competition, most theatre practitioners complained out loud, they didn’t have an area to do efficiency due to how the area was designed. But to the stakeholders, they really useful the kind of competition free for everybody was simply good as a result of it offers a chance for folks from Blantyre to entry performances, from music, poetry, dance. But theatre was not there. What’s your plan of incorporating theatre however in the exact same setup?
Thomas: We instructed that the competition from now onwards, it’s going to be without spending a dime for everybody. And we wish to use the identical area to be sure that we incorporate all these genres into the competition settings because it was. But then we wish to have an atmosphere the place we are able to construct completely different sort of levels. Now we’re going to have levels for theatre. We are going to have stage for music and we’re going to have stage for younger folks to do completely different sort of settings like poetry, like committee for younger folks. So the best way ahead is to construct completely different sort of stage, on the identical area, on the identical venue. But we wish to have completely different sort of levels the place we are able to incorporate completely different sort of artwork disciplines to have an choice, to have a chance to have such sort of efficiency and the visibility for his or her arts in order that we are able to have a significant affect within the sense of growing arts.
Malawi is shedding quite a lot of personal identification within the points of the humanities, and it’s shedding identification as a result of folks shouldn’t have a lot visibility, an area the place they’ll carry out.
Fumbani: Don’t you suppose using a free competition, the setup you simply did this 12 months, can have an issue in your sustainability of the group?
Thomas: Many persons are pondering that it’s going to be problematic to maintain competition when it’s free. But it’s a must to additionally keep in mind that when it’s a free competition, it signifies that lot of individuals coming and a lot of the companions that we now have, they should have viewers. And due to viewers goes to be assured throughout this competition, we’re going to have extra companions which can be going to be with us as a result of the companions will all the time want extra viewers. And due to that, we’re going to maintain our competition based mostly in the truth that we’re going to have extra companions with us and extra companions are coming in with the assets that can have the ability to proceed to do our competition with none downside. So sustainability relies on extra companions which can be going to be with us, making an allowance for that there’ll be lots of people who’re going to be half and parcel of the competition and these are twin issues. It can’t change.
Fumbani: I believe for the artist’s sake, it’s going to additionally profit them as a result of they’ll be uncovered to quite a lot of viewers ‘cause it’s a free competition, and lots of people going be there to look at, and among the guys don’t like go and watch festivals as a result of it is advisable to pay one thing even when it’s low cost. But when it’s free they’ll say, “Ah, let’s go and have a free time and enjoy.”
Thomas: On the opposite hand, we additionally have to have the scenario the place folks would recognize arts in Malawi as a result of there may be quite a lot of mature arts, quite a lot of Indigenous arts in Malawi, however folks have a tendency to not go and watch as a result of they don’t have assets. They don’t have cash that they’ll pay. But when it’s free like this, the general public who recognize arts by going and attending these festivals without spending a dime, like at Blantyre Arts Festival, they’ll have the ability to attend poetry, comedy, music. That is one thing that we are able to contribute as Blantyre Arts Festival to present society. Blantyre Arts Festival isn’t just the group by itself. It is there constructed within the elements that the society ought to recognize the humanities, and we’re there for the folks. So once we are there for the folks, we now have to contribute to the society. And the society ought to have the ability to know the artists, and the artists are going to embrace the viewers as a result of they may have lots of people appreciating their arts—like music, individuals who recognize the music of various artists, poetry, theatre, modern dance, and all these sort of issues.
And it’s additionally a advertising and marketing avenue the place Blantyre Arts Festival acts as a market base for the artists to promote out their inventive merchandise. So if artists are promoting their merchandise to many individuals, it means the artists are going to achieve quite a lot of revenues due to their participation to the competition, in order that can also be a sustainability side for us.
You must also see that once we are setting our competition as free as such, it’s an enormous venue, and there’ll be quite a lot of stalls coming from completely different corporations and completely different organizations. Those stalls’ homeowners are benefiting from the competition and the stalls are additionally paying some revenues to Blantyre Arts Festival. That side is also a bundle for sustainability for us. So the sustainability to have free competition as Blantyre Arts Festival… they see it’s assured and wish to get it on and on so that individuals ought to take pleasure in competition. Artists ought to have the ability to give out their finest to the group, to the viewers on the market, and companions will take pleasure in to be with us as a result of they assured that there’ll be lots of people coming who can see their product and companies, stuff like that. So we now have the mutual profit that’s not going to lose its style.
Fumbani: I believe presently Blantyre Arts Festival has reached a degree of reaching each angle of how you can maintain the competition and likewise each half from each self-discipline of theatre and performing arts is being inclusive on this competition. But how do you look within the level of involving Indigenous performances, like involving conventional dance? Last time I watched a Gule Wamkulu, which is typical, conventional and it was very good to see. I used to be anticipating extra of that.
Thomas: Exactly. I imply that was simply a place to begin as you stated already. I imply you will have the witness eye your self that you simply noticed Gule Wamkulu being a part of it and that’s actually typical Indigenous arts for Malawi and we have to do extra of that as a result of a lot of the Indigenous arts, younger folks like people who find themselves staying in Blantyre, within the cities like this, they don’t know what it’s all about. And that’s the place to begin when we’re going to do extra about that in order that these Indigenous arts must also have a platform for the visibility of the humanities. And Malawi is shedding quite a lot of personal identification within the points of the humanities, and it’s shedding identification as a result of folks shouldn’t have a lot visibility, an area the place they’ll carry out. And as a result of they don’t any earnings out of their arts, these Indigenous arts shouldn’t have curiosity to proceed to do their performances. And now when Blantyre Arts Festival is incorporating them, it’ll encourage them to do extra arts. Because of that our Indigenous arts can have a visibility for the generations to come back.
Fumbani: And one level we now have to incorporate the inclusiveness of individuals with disabilities. How do you look that these level of how you will embody folks with incapacity? Many proficient folks with disabilities in Malawi, they’re doing theatre, doing poetry, doing music. What’s this kind of deliberate entry would come with these artists?
Thomas: Now this time round we’re going to be sure that the competition has a sure level the place you say individuals who have disabilities ought to have an added benefit to take part. So we open name for purposes and that’s going to be one of many side that we’re going to add to say folks with the completely different disabilities can have added benefit to carry out on the competition in order that we are able to encourage extra folks with the completely different disabilities, artists of that nature, to be a part of the competition.
We are going to have a movie screening like we now have been used to, that’s why I stated we’re going to construct a distinct sort of stage in order that we are able to actually incorporate all these sort of completely different disciplines to be a part of the competition. So folks with completely different disabilities are going to be half and parcel the competition as a result of we don’t wish to go away some other side of the humanities behind.
Fumbani: It’s like extra of inclusive competition—
Thomas: Exactly.
Fumbani: —Whereby everybody with expertise in music, poetry, dance could be half and parcel of the competition and benefit from the accessibility, the tradition change packages, the workshops, which can be very nice.
Now you’re nonetheless pushing the competition and extra acts are coming. More artists are being promoted by way of this competition. But we nonetheless have the problem of how the tradition trade in Malawi is being supported by the federal government, and certain you might be a part of the duty drive, which is that they’re shifting the parliament to have our Arts Council in Malawi. For fairly many years, we now have been combating for this warfare. Is it a successful warfare or…
Thomas: It’s successful. It’s successful.
Fumbani: It’s successful.
Thomas: Yes, it’s successful as a result of I imply what we now have to know is whenever you arrange a fireplace it’s a must to hold it burning. If you simply go away it, it’ll positively die within the pure loss of life. But for the time being you might be seeing your self that we’re positively very provocative in ensuring that the Arts Council is establishing in Malawi, and we’re in an excellent stage the place positively we are able to see that we’re going to have one Arts Council just about quickly as a result of we now have concerned stakeholders which can be positively prepared to be sure that they pursue this Arts Council to be enacted in Malawi.
Recently we had been already discussing with the parliamentarians, and the parliamentarians, they’re the individuals who make legal guidelines. All the councils in Malawi are enacted by parliamentarians, and we lobbied with them, and they’re a lot to see that the Arts Council is unquestionably going to seek out its approach passing by way of the parliament. You must also perceive that it’s solely Malawi out of sixteen member states within the SADC area which shouldn’t have an Arts Council. And 99 % of the nations in Africa have one Arts Council—Malawi and only a few different nations which shouldn’t have an Arts Council. It’s a really pity.
The parliamentarians themselves, they’re on the forefront to be sure that the Arts Council ought to positively be a part of Malawi this time round.
Fumbani: Yeah. Okay.
Thomas: You must also keep in mind that Zimbabwe develop into unbiased in 1980. And very 4 years after that it enacted its Arts Council, simply after 4 years. And Malawi, it’s fifty-seven years down the road. It doesn’t have Arts Council. This is a pity scenario.
Fumbani: Why do you suppose is the principle purpose?
Thomas: Oh, the principle purpose was the political will. It’s a political will. The will of the federal government don’t embody arts as one of many sectors that they should develop. And making an allowance for that for the time being we’re within the forefront of dialogue with the parliamentarians who cross legal guidelines. They had been a lot annoyed to listen to that in Malawi there isn’t a Arts Council placing all these elements that Zimbabwe, solely 4 years, they’d their very own Arts Council. Why not Malawi? So then the parliamentarians themselves, they’re on the forefront to be sure that the Arts Council ought to positively be a part of Malawi this time round, in order that’s why I’m saying that we’re within the successful place proper now.
Fumbani: Don’t you suppose it’s the battle is within the successful sector half I can say that’s gradual?
Thomas: It’s gradual, and the opposite factor that you simply must also know is that the sector was not supported by the companions. And this time round we’re very comfortable that there are some completely different companions who’re supporting us to push the Arts Council to be enacted. That alone is a sign that the Arts Council goes to seek out its approach by way of to the parliament.
Fumbani: Oh wow. Okay. We return to Blantyre Arts Festival. For years I’ve been there. If you will have modified venues, you’ve got this atmosphere for theatre so how do you view the way forward for theatre in Blantyre Arts Festival?
Thomas: I believe theatre contribute quite a lot of nice points of the humanities in Malawi. It has modified quite a lot of issues, and it has additionally deliver younger artists into the play. And we might see that younger persons are a lot to be a part of the theatre productions in Malawi. And additionally there may be quite a lot of actions which can be occurring which can be involving theatre contributions. That alone can also be displaying that the theatre goes to discover a higher platform for them to proceed as a result of there’s a market, attention-grabbing bundle about it. and the Blantyre Festival is ensuring that theatre manufacturing ought to have an even bigger play within the competition. But I believe this time we wish to be sure that perhaps 50 % of the humanities must be a part of the theatre productions as a result of for the time being 50 % is in regards to the music.
Fumbani: Yeah.
Thomas: And this time we wish to be sure that we now have an even bigger platform for theatre manufacturing. That’s why I stated we have to have completely different venue at completely different settings, completely different levels, all in an effort to be sure that we accommodate theatre to be a part of the competition itself.
Fumbani: They simply ended competition, we noticed how impactful you launched problems with local weather change and folks had been simply calling it as Eco-tourism competition as a result of the way you imported problems with Indigenous performances. We see Gule Wamkulu, different conventional dance. We see modern. And now on the identical time the entire competition was carried out at a conducive atmosphere that replicate the aspect of local weather change that can replicate how you can defend the environment. What was the principle aim to decide on this thematic aspect of local weather?
Thomas: You should perceive that artists, it’s a must to perceive typical of the artists, artists are just like the mirror.
Fumbani: Yeah.
Thomas: The mirror all the time… whenever you have a look at the mirror, it displays your individual identification, and the artists are just like the mirror that it displays to the challenges that the world, the nation, the nation goes by way of. Therefore, Blantyre Arts Festival will not be spared within the challenges that Malawi as a rustic goes by way of, particularly relating to local weather change. Malawi is a part of it. We had the Cyclone Idai—
Fumbani: Yeah.
Thomas: Which devastated quite a lot of lives.
Fumbani: Yeah.
Thomas: Lots of property had been broken, and we by no means know what different challenges that we’re going to have sooner or later to come back. Artists should be sure that they replicate all these sort of issues in order that the people who find themselves making selections ought to have a look at the best way how we are able to stop different damages that may come by way of with the unfavorable affect of local weather change.
Therefore, our competition all the time look into these issues and be sure that the theme ought to replicate to the issues which can be difficult the society. That’s why Blantyre Arts Festival final 12 months was extra a lot in regards to the local weather change reflection as a result of it’s the points which can be difficult the society for the time being in order a mirror we had been on the forefront to take a look at the society and inform the nations that we should do one thing if you wish to fight the problems of unfavorable results of local weather change and environmental protections in Malawi.
Fumbani: Apart from the competition itself, do you will have unbiased initiatives that additionally would proceed the attention of local weather change? This is of local weather safety and atmosphere. Do you will have these plans otherwise you nonetheless, you have already got that concept of implementing issues to do with local weather change utilizing artists?
Thomas: We wish to use the present artists that we now have to be sure that we now have the initiatives. And already from the companions that we had final time, these companions who got here from local weather change and environmental safety. We are cooking one thing for the time being that we should always have the mission that we’ll do, positively proceed to speak extra in regards to the points which can be negatively impacting the nations when it comes to local weather change and environmental safety. The theatre is without doubt one of the teams that we wish to work collectively and be sure that we now have consciousness marketing campaign about local weather change and the environmental unfavorable affect points throughout the nation and we are able to do some clips when it comes to perhaps doing video clips or video collection or to do—
Fumbani: Digital theatre.
Thomas: Yeah, digital theatre that we are able to ship elsewhere. And we wish to embrace using digital platform, which is seemingly persons are utilizing it rather a lot however don’t want bodily presence of the artists elsewhere. We can use digital platform, however producing some completely different clips, some movies, some audio collection, one thing like that. Those are the instructions that we’re taking proper now.
Fumbani: All proper.
Thomas: Yeah.
Fumbani: Tom Chiwambo, thanks very a lot for a beautiful dialog. I hope subsequent season can have one other further and we see how finest we are able to work together extra about theatre and performing arts in Malawi.
Thomas: Definitely. Indeed. We are just about comfortable that you simply thought-about Blantyre Arts Festival as one of many group that would contribute to this podcast and I’m certain that we’re going to do greater than what we’re at present.
Fumbani: Yeah. Thank you.
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